• John Lim

MF 200 : Moving Forward

Updated: Apr 15, 2021

On episode 200, John Lim has a conversation with Andy Bray, announces some big projects for 2019, and changes to Moving Forward for season 6.

Listen to the full interview by clicking the play button above. Moving Forward is also available on iTunes, Stitcher Radio, Google Play, iHeartRadio and Spotify

Looking for a last minute holiday gift?

The Corporate Cliches Adult Coloring Book is available on sale for the holidays with free shipping to Amazon Prime customers. It’s the perfect stocking stuffer, white elephant, office party gift!

This was a project that arrived purely by accident and happenstance in 2016. I had no idea coloring books were a thing until several people mentioned them to me, including a few who asked my advice on creating one. I got into a conversation with my co-creators and the more we explored this, the more we learned how popular these are and therapeutic! We thought it would be a fun side project and after mulling it over, we decided to take our favorite (or least favorite) office sayings and turn 19 of them into literal translations. We even consulted with a therapist who confirmed that these are great for stress relief.


  1. A5 journal size, convenient for carrying in purses, brief bags, or large coat pockets (this ain’t your kids’ coloring book!).

  2. 19 of the most popular (or infamous) corporate cliches that made the top of several business publications “must stop using” list.

  3. Unique original designs that translate cliches into hilarious, literal interpretations.

  4. Pages are single-sided (no double dipping!).

  5. Reverse side of the page contains fun trivia and a cliche hashtag for social media.

  6. Gift or occasion checklist (so you can skip the card).

Part 1: Retrospective

Moving Forward has been an incredible journey for me. I never thought I’d last 10 episodes much less make it to 200! I started thinking about what I wanted to do for this episode back when season 5 began in January with episode 150. Later, during the season I spoke with Tim Fulton, on the importance of having an exit strategy. After our conversation, I considered ending the show here, feeling that 200 would be a great stopping point. Part of this was due to an increasing number of projects I’m taking on next year, including a big one I’ve been working on with today’s guest, Andy Bray. However, after several conversations with friends, business partners, and podcast guests, who encouraged me to continue with the show into 2019, I rethought the decision and have decided to retool the show instead. More on this later.

Part II: A Conversation with Andy Bray on “Making Fake Star Trek”

I’ve known Andy for over 10 years. We first met as fellow actors back in 2004, after getting cast in ‘Star Trek: New Voyages,’ an online fan series that aired for over a decade. I portrayed Lt. Commander Sulu, a role originated by George Takei, while Andy played Lt. Chekov, originally portrayed by Walter Koenig. In 2016, I pitched an article to Cracked about the experience, which came out in January 2017. Within a few days, the article went viral with over 100,000 views.

Shortly after, Andy and I got into several conversations. I suggested he think about sharing his story to Cracked, to which he suggested that we write a book. As you’ll learn on this episode, Andy was joking but I didn’t know it at the time! I took his suggestion seriously. While I loved writing the Cracked article, it was a very truncated version of the story that left a lot on the table. Moreover, I had thought about writing a book over the years but wasn’t sure I could pull it off for two reasons: 1) this happened a long time ago, 2) I didn’t keep a journal.

However, I realized the same motivation for writing the Cracked article was there for a book. While I didn’t keep a journal, Andy and I did the next best thing.

We tapped into our inner old man tendencies. Like a couple of senior citizens, we relived our glory years every time we spoke on the phone; retelling the same stories over and over from our New Voyages experience.

That’s when it occurred to me that maybe we could pull this off. We both read ‘The Disaster Artist‘ by Greg Sestero about the making of the cult classic film, ‘The Room,’ co-starring Greg and Tommy Wiseau. In that book, Greg details the making of the film, including all of the nutty behind the scenes drama. Andy and I realized we had our own story to tell: not just about one film but of being part of a whole series that revolved around the huge cultural phenomenon that is Star Trek.

We decided it was time to tell this story and not just to ourselves over the phone. In this episode, Andy and I detail how we got started, providing some insight into our writing process which started a year and a half ago.

Part III: What’s Next

Moving Forward will be a new show as we head into 2019. Up until now, it’s been a structured, interview-based show. I’ve been very fortunate to have incredible guests from CEOs and entrepreneurs to artists and musicians, come share their moving forward journeys with us.

For season 6, I’ll be taking the show solo. The content will be bite-sized: 5-7 minute episodes and each month I’ll be covering a different theme, kicking off in January with starting an online business.

The show will be compact and I’m going to skip a lot of the frills such as music, sound effects, and editing. I want this to be a real conversation with you, the listener. Keeping it short will force me to economize and really deliver content that is useful and digestible.

I want to thank all of you, including those who have been with me from day 1 and those who are just tuning in for the first time. You’ve been an incredible part of my moving forward journey and I hope you find the inspiration and guidance to continue doing so in 2019 and beyond.

Links and Resources

  1. Amazon and Audible:

  2. Try out Audible and move forward with two free audiobooks through our Amazon affiliate.

  3. Try out Amazon Prime for 30 days free through our Amazon affiliate.

  4. The Disaster Artist‘ by Greg Sestero: a hilarious inside look at the making of the cult classic film, ‘The Room.’

  5. The Room:’ considered by many to be one of the “worst films” ever made. It has since gained a huge cult following with regular screenings worldwide.

  6. Read about my Star Trek: New Voyages journey in Cracked.

  7. Follow Moving Forward:

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